Q & A
with SOL GITTLEMAN
Interviewed by Laura Ferguson
Sol Gittleman, the Alice and Nathan Gantcher University
Professor, was named provost in 1981. When he stepped down
in 2002 after 21 years of service, he held the distinction
of being the longest-serving provost in the history of American
education. Gittleman’s longevity is matched by his
talents as a storyteller, as illustrated in his new book,
An Entrepreneurial University: The Transformation of Tufts,
1976–2002. While his bookspans a host of issues that
challenged and strengthened the university, he remains particularly
fascinated with the life and times of former president Jean
Mayer.
Was this an itch that you had to scratch?
Not at first. When I was cleaning out my office, I found
a bunch of papers and I said, “You know, this looks
like it might work.” And I realized that nobody remembers
Jean Mayer. None of the students knew how Tufts got to
be as good as it is. I think it’s important for a
university to remember where it came from and how it got
here. It builds a sense of drama in that it shows where
we were going, which in the 1970s, was nowhere.
It seems hard to believe, as you report,
that Tufts nearly had to close its doors.
Look at a 1973 report, “The Changing University in
a Changing Time.” It says the next five years for Tufts
are going to be bad, but the ten years after that are going
to be worse. Richard Freeland, in his book on American higher
education in Boston, Academia’s Golden Age, said Tufts
was not viable. We had no eminence, no financial resources,
and no hope of getting any. We did manage to get some good
students.
Why call the book “The Entrepreneurial University”?
Because Mayer was the first entrepreneur. He was an optimist
and he didn’t pay attention to anybody. He was a
lone ranger—the only chain of command was his chain.
He wouldn’t hurt you; he’d just lie a little
and ignore you. He never fired anybody.
Did you admire him?
Yes, tremendously. He was a delicious combination of visionary
and confidence man. He was made up of so many contradictions,
but he was utterly charming. He knew how to get something
done by going around people. He also brought just the right
amount of vinegar and elbow. He said at the first faculty
meeting, “Forgive me if I misspeak. I have never
been at an institution where the people actually seem to
like each other. I was educated at Harvard and Yale.” But,
he also recognized that that kind of collegiality, friendliness,
could breed mediocrity, and that’s what we had. We
had a friendly, comfortable, mediocre place.
Did you learn something as you went through the writing process?
Yes, but not so much about others as about me. What made
me work out? I just ran a second-banana language department
for 15 years. Mayer picked me out of the German and Russian
Department to be provost because he thought I’d stay
out of his way. I think that in terms of being a scholar
and a teacher, there is a certain competency required to
do a good job. After that, it’s emotional intelligence.
How do I get along with people? How do I get them to do what
we need to have done?
What were your strengths as provost?
Personality. It’s all I had. [laughter] I did my job
by keeping in touch with faculty, praising them. I was the
ultimate stroker. I said it in notes to myself in May of
1981, “Look, the only thing I am going to be able to
do is be the ultimate ombud and cheerleader for the institution.” So
I was an entrepreneur in certain respects in that my toast
also was not going to fall with its butter underneath. It
was always going to land on top.
Did the new professional schools have an impact on the image
of the university?
There’s no question that we became an infinitely more
prominent university, but it didn’t all happen in Mayer’s
time. When the U.S. News &World Report first came out
with the college rankings edition in 1983, nobody read it,
nobody cared. But it was in the 1990s, on John DiBiaggio’s
watch, that all of a sudden Tufts was ranked among the top
25 universities. So, yes, we are harvesting what Mayer started.
Which two schools recently got naming gifts? Nutrition and
Vet. That’s Mayer’s legacy. He was a builder
of half bridges. It fell to other people to complete them.
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